Inspiring First Time Story on Sunny Day's site.

[NudeGuy]

I believe in air! I can't see it, or smell it, or even feel it somtimes but if I think for more then a few minutes that I can do without it i'll die. There is no proof that air exists, but me and my brain via my lungs tend to be true believers.
P.S. No human power invented the air we breathe.

I can't see heat, or it's absence, but I know what it feels like. I can't see light, only it's source, it's absence or reflection thereof.

On there air bit, I can attest to the fact that when we're deprived of air, our view of world and life changes quite drastically. On my trip to SA last September, I was rushed to hospital with severe pneumonia. X-rays showed I had less the 25% breathing capacity in my left lung only. Oxygen staturation of 40-45%. I couldn't see it, but the oxygen being force fed to me was a major saviour.


Larry, I can vouch for Danni, Lara and Jenni, insofar as I did get written responses to messages I sent to them. What happened to the first two I have no idea. Jenni did hint that the online persona was causing issues in her personal and professional life.

[Gymnos42]

Larry, I can vouch for Danni, Lara and Jenni, insofar as I did get written responses to messages I sent to them. What happened to the first two I have no idea. Jenni did hint that the online persona was causing issues in her personal and professional life.

Danni and I are friends outside of Cat's, which is why I wrote that.
~ Larry

[Petrus]

Danni and I are friends outside of Cat's, which is why I wrote that. ~ Larry

Larry, I assume that she is not Danni Webber,whose UK based website was the cause of much speculation. Peter

[John P]

I hadn't heard of Danni Webber but I did a search and came up with the old thread, from autumn 2008:

http://www.chatbocks.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3812&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Petrus, I see you were among the believers, but there were certainly skeptics! Apparently Sunnyday has been more careful, but I'm skeptical anyway. This cartoon says it all:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.jpg

[Gymnos42]

Danni and I are friends outside of Cat's, which is why I wrote that. ~ Larry

Larry, I assume that she is not Danni Webber,whose UK based website was the cause of much speculation. Peter

No, I meant our Danni, which is who I thought we were discussing.
~ Larry

[Petrus]

Petrus, I see you were among the believers, but there were certainly skeptics!l

The point being?

[davidk]

My father was a well known chemist. He once claimed to me that he didn't believe in atoms, since he never saw one. Largely tongue-in-cheek but not entirely. His point was that all he had was circumstantial evidence that pointed to their existence, and how they behave, but that his "beliefs" always had to be subject to question based on new evidence. Then a colleague Andrew Crewe developed the first scanning electron microscope, and published a picture of a uranium atom. My father came home and told me he now believed!

I believe that most of us are real and similar to who we act as here, based on the evidence of what they write. And I similarly believe that some are not. But "someone" I thought was turned out definitely not to be real, so you can't be sure.

But so what, as long as the conversations are interesting and pleasant?

[John P]

The point being, that the Internet has been used from time to time by people claiming to be young women interested in naturism. And it's clear that they vary in their degree of credibility, but for those of us who tend to be skeptical, we observe that in real life, which takes place in front of one's very eyes, there are rather few of them. I thought it was worth pointing out that Sunnyday isn't the first one or only one. Where are Lisa James and Crazybeverly, and where exactly is the Willow Hill School? (Not that these names have been mentioned here, as far as I know.) I'm not laughing at or taunting those who believe, any more than I'd do it over religion, but I just want to point out that we don't automatically have to believe these people. By being more open about who, where and when they could make their stories a lot more believable, but (like God) they choose not to.

[Petrus]

The point being, that the Internet has been used from time to time by people claiming to be young women interested in naturism.

Cat and the moderators very alert to this fact and as soon as somebody is proved to be a fake they will not be tolerated and sent on their way.

I spent the most of my working life in branch banking and became quite cynical, especially as the result of listening to customers’ business plans or how they intended to repay an unauthorised borrowing! Nowadays, I try initially to give everybody the benefit of the doubt and, if appropriate, respond to their posts. If we treat all newcomers with suspicion from the outset, it would deter new members and stifle discussion, so the forum would soon die.

Just because somebody else describes a lifestyle or experiences different to your own or it is even beyond your comprehension, it does not necessarily mean that it is a fabrication.

[sandy_beach_cat]

By being more open about who, where and when they could make their stories a lot more believable,

But by giving out enough info to allow themselves to be identified, they would lay themselves open to teasing, bullying or worse.
They could in fact be more easily targeted by the sort of people who post on sites like this, while pretending to be teenage girls.....

[sanua_chap]

By being more open about who, where and when they could make their stories a lot more believable,

But by giving out enough info to allow themselves to be identified, they would lay themselves open to teasing, bullying or worse.
They could in fact be more easily targeted by the sort of people who post on sites like this, while pretending to be teenage girls.....

Precisely.

And, as I think Petrus was suggesting, we don't have to believe the story in order to treat people with politeness, respect and courtesy.

[davidk]

By being more open about who, where and when they could make their stories a lot more believable,

But by giving out enough info to allow themselves to be identified, they would lay themselves open to teasing, bullying or worse.
They could in fact be more easily targeted by the sort of people who post on sites like this, while pretending to be teenage girls.....

Precisely.

And, as I think Petrus was suggesting, we don't have to believe the story in order to treat people with politeness, respect and courtesy.

Amen

[sandy_beach_cat]

Precisely.

And, as I think Petrus was suggesting, we don't have to believe the story in order to treat people with politeness, respect and courtesy.

Amen

I agree with all of that.

[patcaz]

OK, I can see where John P is coming from. Some of the Sunny Day stories seem a little too good to be true. But so what? Does it really harm me if Sunny Day, or anyone who posts here or anyone else, isn't who they claim to be? I'm never going to meet 99-100% of the people I talk to on a forum like this. I just have to take it on good faith that they are who they say they are. If they turn out they aren't who they claim to be, oh well. I've been fooled before, and despite what the Who might say, I'll be fooled again. It happens. It doesn't injure or threaten me, though. My life goes on, with no particular damage other than, perhaps, some wasted time. (And, for the record, I'm a skeptic. Plenty of posts here have raised my eyebrows. But, again, so what?)

If you're looking for real, genuine naturists, the best place to find them is probably a real, genuine naturist event or facility. That's not to say there are none here. I have reason to believe they are plenty. But if you are so paranoid, cynical or otherwise ill-tempered to doubt the participants in a forum like this, I submit that you're wasting your time - time you could be spending enjoying being nude with real people.

It really doesn't matter if people are who they say they are - just believe them, and enjoy their contributions, or don't believe them, and find enjoyment elsewhere.

PC

P.S. And this applies just as well to things other than naturism. If you want real, genuine X, go to a place where X is practiced, not to an internet forum about X.

P.P.S. On a personal note, this thread, along with the "Fake personas" announcement elsewhere, saddens me, and Nia too. I hope there isn't a witch hunt brewing. Those kinds of things kill community, and I don't want to be part of a community that's heading that way. Say it isn't so!

[FrankT]

On a personal note, this thread, along with the "Fake personas" announcement elsewhere, saddens me, and Nia too. I hope there isn't a witch hunt brewing. Those kinds of things kill community, and I don't want to be part of a community that's heading that way. Say it isn't so!

It isn't so.

However (and this is an important however), we are very leery of adults pretending to be teenagers. We have to wonder what their motives are. So if we catch adults doing that, we get them out of here. We simply want to protect the REAL teenagers on this board.